Comments for Clout: The Game

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billllllly

Nov. 28, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) To be honest... I'm pretty sure Q's just messing with all of us for fun. He's probably leaning back on a swivel chair, drinking coke, and laughing as this all unfolds.

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WindyRevalations

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Q, do you have someone you trust that you can talk to about the stalkers? This situation is more than anyone can handle on their own.

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bobandrob

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Yes, because only sane people carry around poisoned walnuts in an aspirin container. If someone is really stalking you, by all means, go to the proper authorities.

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Whiplashx

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Whoever the real stalkers are, they're probably jizzing their pants now they've managed to do stuff to mislead Q and his most loyal fans in an all out conflict against each other. Now all they need to do is sit back and watch as Q's world burns, all without them needing to lay a further finger. Stalkers, if you or yous are reading this. I think you or yous are (a) twisted, terrible (group of) people for going so far as meddling in Q's life like this.

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Graviity

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Also Q is insane, there are no stalkers. He stole my money through kongregate kreds and is a scammer by my estimation, lets see how many upvotes this gets to back me up.

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coolguy6778

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Are the stalkers even relevant to the game itself, Q? Sure, they screw with it, but you could just call the FBI. Get some police protection, protective custody, etc, and put an end to it. Why aren't you doing any of these things? No offense, but it just seems a bit odd that you haven't done that already if you've almost been poisoned. Another thing, why are the stalkers even doing this in the first place? Did you do something? I mean no offense by any of these questions.

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Graviity

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Basically what happened to this game is: People repoted bugs and their existence was denied by the developer. Why have beta testers if you don't trust their opinion?

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KillerOfU33

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Also I never defended kiran in any way here. I love the guy to bits, but I don't even know what you guys are talking about in here. Just looks like text walls that I'm unwilling to read. So, I'm glad I proved you right?

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KillerOfU33

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Well I mean, ok I guess. Ya got me, I've spent 4 years building badges on an account just so that you'd never suspect that I hack a silly flash game. Darn. /sarcasm

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HanLecter

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Delos... We are very concerned... Why did you have poisoned Walnuts on your desk?? Why did they stole them from you?? Please, tell us...

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DoomlordKravoka

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Even before this debacle, Q was the bad guy. Think about it. He rigs America into a five way free-for-all filled with corrupt politicians for his own entertainment. Giving each side a win condition that ranges from "Bad Idea" to "End of America". Then he brings eldritch terrors into the mix, if you look at his stats you can see a Mark of Cthulhu, indicating that he is carrying out the will of the great old ones.

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Developer response from delosford

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Greydon1

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) @KillerOfU33 you don't need HTML editing skills to make a pastebin, you could just write shit and nobody can prove it

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Developer response from delosford

I think the most amusing part is how he accidentally agreed with me about kiraninja

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Ceratay

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Bil(x7)y gets it.

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Developer response from delosford

Nope

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HanLecter

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) CloutTruthSquad... Come on Q.... Don´t be so pathetic...

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Developer response from delosford

Are you saying you think that account is me or something? Feel free to confirm with Kongregate that it isn't.

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KillerOfU33

Nov. 27, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) @CloutTruthSquad http://prntscr.com/5alwkc

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Developer response from delosford

You do realize that mostly just proves exactly what I said about kiraninja, right? Not your most brilliant moment.

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CloutTruthSquad

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) @KillerofU33 Considering that you have been busted trying (and failing) to DDOS the server, your claims that you are a mere bystander are laughable. http://pastebin.com/davZ8aUz

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Developer response from delosford

Yeah, it is pretty funny how they just pretend clear evidence doesn't exist, isn't it?

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bobandrob

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) God, what happened to this game? It use to be so simple: filibuster a bill here, assassinate an opponent there. But now everything has gone to hell. Now it is "stalkers" and "hacking." i am starting to wonder if any of these stalkers are actually real.

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Developer response from delosford

Well, explain who took two poisoned walnuts out of an aspirin container on my desk at work. If you can do that, then you get to express the opinion that the people stalking me may not be real. Otherwise, you get banned for doing so because it's slanderous and frankly pretty fucking rude to do so.

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billllllly

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Q, it's not that we don't believe you when you say the stalkers exist, it's just that the people that your banning probably aren't them and your being kind of an asshole about it.

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Developer response from delosford

Nope

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KillerOfU33

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Wait, when did I become a stalker? I was legitimately curious o.o I said that you don't have to show it if you don't want to. I'm just a bystander. All I know is that the stalker finger is being pointed and I'm hearing a lot of people complain

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Developer response from delosford

No, it's just you and a couple of your stalker friends. As you can see from the post above yours, it's pretty fucking clear you don't have the game's best interests at heart and lie a lot.

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HanLecter

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Kiraninja... That proofs nothing... You are using Stalkers Software... Once again, you show everybody how right I am...

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Developer response from delosford

His friends routinely spread information about how to use browser dev tools to modify the game interface and spoof network requests. Screenshots of the code kind of trump his video.

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HanLecter

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Q... could you please tell us more about that story? Did someone stole your poisoned Walnuts??? (as can be read in http://www.kongregate.com/forums/1-kongregate/topics/451020-controversial-game)

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Developer response from delosford

yep

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kiraninja

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Ok, just went on google, got the first screen recording software i could find, and recorded the game eating my messages. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F43alIFnoNc

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Developer response from delosford

The front-end could easily be modified on your computer to do that. People routinely spread information about how to do things like that around the game. Oh, and they're all your friends that I also banned. I posted the code. Anyone can read it. That trumps your video in a lot of ways.

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Furoa

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Ah, so that's why you keep accusing people of lying. It's because you were the biggest one of them all, and keep projecting your m.o. onto everyone who even remotely disagrees with you. Understandable when you don't want to face the truth. You'd even go so far as to prevent people from speaking out in posts, like you edited the code to prevent people from posting '...' In global before. (And 'nope' is not a proper rebuttal to your flawed logic earlier, by the way. You cannot both claim that screenshot is damming then turn around and say it's the wrong one.)

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Developer response from delosford

I muted someone for breaking the rules in chat. They were later unmuted. Everything else you posted is a comical lie and an attempt to accuse me of what you're guilty of. Common stalker tactic. You can find it in a lot of posts from suspicious people arguing with me across the internet over the last couple years. It became super obvious at first on Reddit.

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HanLecter

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) lol... Q has modified the code so I can´t write properly in the Posts... because I wrote a sticky which says; Please, do not listen to anything Q says... I have to admit it... that was a cool one

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Developer response from delosford

That's not why I did it.

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kiraninja

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Yeah, that would be impossible, which is why i've come to the conclusion that you are framing me

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Developer response from delosford

Framing you for what? I posted the code. Anyone can read it. Unless you're legitimately trying to claim that the message I put in the code would be seen by anyone as real after it became evident that all your chats were just producing that?

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kiraninja

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) I didn't, i still try to post and nothing happens

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Developer response from delosford

I just showed you the code. That's not possible. Please point out the line on which it sets your message to a blank message. After noticing that there is no such line, you just might notice that the check for rejecting blank messages is on the very next line after your message is set to something non-blank. Which means your claim is logically impossible. Go away, stalker.

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kiraninja

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) At first i thought you were just being arrogant claiming furoa did things that she never did to cover your own arse, but now you're actively framing me as a stalker? kudos Q, you will do anything to make yourself look like the good guy

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Developer response from delosford

So how'd you know what I wrote into the code?

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kiraninja

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) And now i can't even post in devil's inn, you must've coded your punishment wrong or something, please go try my fbid and see for yourself.

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Developer response from delosford

No, it's coded perfectly. It's so simple anyone could understand it. Here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/n8i0tvK.png. And oddly, you knew exactly what I did and suddenly started pretending you were muted instead of trying to chat and having your message replaced with that.

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ZZZSonic

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Aw, I tried to go to www.shadypharm.com and my google said there was no existent DNS... STALKERS!

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Developer response from delosford

I've considered registering the domain and setting up a fake site before in case people do this.

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HanLecter

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) http://www.kongregate.com/forums/1-kongregate/topics/451020-controversial-game

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Developer response from delosford

Thanks for the free publicity!

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HanLecter

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Kiran, to answer your question... Everyone else is the voices on his head... whispering... mumbling... always there...

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Developer response from delosford

So you're saying you're not real?

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kiraninja

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) And i'm only asking for the screenshot again because i just showed it to you and now you're claiming it is the wrong screenshot.

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Developer response from delosford

I gave you a way better screenshot. Seen it yet? 'course you have.

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kiraninja

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Who is this everyone else? I've seen all the global posts and frequented kong chat far more then you and no one is backing you up here. And yes, that is the screenshot 12q posted. Here's a pastebin of global from the past week where i got the screenshot. You can also see a distinct lack of people agreeing with you after 12 posted it. http://pastebin.com/1MGKuWz7

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HanLecter

Nov. 26, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) - Can you explain me what Clout is about? - You belong to a political party, and through Bills you have to.... Nah, its about messing around with the crazy developer... :-)

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Furoa

Nov. 25, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) You realize that the link kiraninja posted earlier is the same one as the one 12q posted that supposedly proved my guilt?? Which you responded to by basically saying it wasn't the one that proved your point? Way to contradict yourself.

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Developer response from delosford

No, it's not. But you can go ahead and keep lying repeatedly and see if anyone believes you.

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KillerOfU33

Nov. 25, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) I kinda want the screenshot as well if you're willing to provide it...

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Developer response from delosford

I already did provide it. Well, technically 12q did. You and all your stalker buddies said it didn't prove anything. Everyone else disagreed.

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12q12q9

Nov. 25, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Also Q, why would stalkers have kongregate accounts from 2008, are these dangerous hackers that stalker you just play flash games in their free time for years?

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Developer response from delosford

Because every stalker is also a person who did stuff before and during the time they were/are a stalker. Your question really makes no sense. Did you think they were all pod people that matured in the last two years or something?

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countroo1

Nov. 25, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) I was not around during said Furoa screenshot that proves her ban. Can you please clarify what happened with the screenshot that got her banned, Q?

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Developer response from delosford

Denied the existence of the stalkers, claimed proof I was providing wasn't proof. Pretty simple to identify as stalker behavior. It's funny, there were shitloads of people asking questions/disagreeing/etc... and oddly, only people acting really suspicious as I outlined got banned. Maybe there was a reason for that.

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kiraninja

Nov. 25, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Why wouldn't you? Prove me wrong and show me the screenshot

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Developer response from delosford

Because I already did and you just handwaved it away despite the obvious proof contained therein? You don't get to repeatedly ask for the exact same thing over and over and act like your never saw it the first time. It's another stalker tactic that's pretty sad. You try to make it look like I'm not answering your questions when I'm in fact just tired of answering the exact same question over and over again with the exact same proof everyone except you completely accepts as proof.

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Furoa

Nov. 25, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) What exactly about that screenshot proves your suspicions, then? You claim to be so good at debate but every time we ask for clarification or rebut one of your points all you do is dance around the issue, use ad hominems, or handwave the rebuttal away without addressing the issue at all.

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Developer response from delosford

No, I give you proof, you claim it isn't proof, everyone else accepts it as proof, and we all go on with our lives while you keep asking the same question over and over again in the comments as though the answer is somehow going to change. Again: common stalker tactic to try and make me look evasive when I'm actually just tired of answering the same fucking question over and over again while you pretend I never answered it.

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kiraninja

Nov. 25, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Well, you just said you had one that shows what you ARE talking about, care to direct me to it?

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Developer response from delosford

Why would I bother? Didn't you see it before and say it wasn't good enough? That's always the response from you folks. There's no player mutiny. Everyone knows what's going on and what happened. There's nothing actually left for me to answer.

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kiraninja

Nov. 25, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) http://i.imgur.com/k9dJ9iY.png If you're talking about this one it doesn't show furoa doing any of the things you are talking about.

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Developer response from delosford

There are in fact an infinite number of possible screenshots that do not show what I'm talking about. Which isn't really proof of anything much.

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kiraninja

Nov. 25, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) "We have a screenshot of you doing exactly what I said would get you banned. The end." What screenshot?

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Developer response from delosford

The one you said wasn't good enough and everyone else said was.

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HanLecter

Nov. 25, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Have you ever considere the possibility of Delos being his own stalker?? I mean... The game crashes sometimes, that´s why we all kind of believe there is someone messing around but... Who would care for a small game played by such a small community?? What if, in fact, Delos would be insanely crashing his own game so people would believe it? Would that be impossible? I don´t think so...

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Developer response from delosford

The game has literally never crashed. The stalkers used to bribe or threaten the hosting company into shutting off the server and blaming it on RAM. Moved hosting companies, never happened again. The server's back to running on 256MB of RAM, by the way. The people after me care about attacking me, not the game in specific. Nice try at your usual lies and deflection, though, stalker.

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Furoa

Nov. 24, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) d) I'm done trying to be polite and civil with you when you're just going to reject all evidence that doesn't agree with your worldview. You've twisted words to suit your own meanings, seen connections where there were none, and contradicted yourself on multiple occasions. (and please. point me to this nebulous 'everyone' that sees the screenshot as 'damning evidence', because i haven't heard a peep from them at all. There was literally two lines of information on it that explained the reasoning behind my infodrop. circumstantial, contextless, and would not fly in court.) I'm done. Inb4 more accusations of walls of text and lying.

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Developer response from delosford

You know, it's really ironic that you're claiming I'm rejecting evidence. Which is what you're doing. Stalkers always try to project their own failings onto others when trying their stupid attempts to convince people of lies. Is it because you realize my strategy of using facts is better than your strategy of lying repeatedly? We have a screenshot of you doing exactly what I said would get you banned. The end.

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Furoa

Nov. 24, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) a) 'never posted that you're 'crazy'/'delusional'' does not read 'Oh but I thought you never even said anything remotely like that?' But thanks for spinning. b) Honestly, proving that 'round3' means 'third reroll' is a lot more believable than trying to link dan to craig when they were two unrelated individuals. It's even worse when there are people who can vouch for his name irl. Also, it's very difficult to prove intent. c) I'm not a stalker, I've never been a stalker, and I don't plan to. Your allegations that I am a stalker are unfounded, slanderous and hurtful, especially considering I had no idea this game existed until the tail end of the newb rush.

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Developer response from delosford

abc your lies are crap and nooooobody fucking cares. Go away.

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Bellwhether

Nov. 24, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Going to have to admit, the banning of those people is pretty far-fetched and a bit non-nonsensical if you ask me.

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Developer response from delosford

Going to have to admit: you sound an awful lot like a stalker and somebody who doesn't actually play this game.

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HanLecter

Nov. 24, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) Delos... You are indeed Crazy and Delusional :-)

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Developer response from delosford

No, I am perfectly sane and present nothing except supportable factual information... which is why only the banned and a couple people who don't even play the game are still posting about this. Because nobody else really cares about your lies anymore.

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Furoa

Nov. 24, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) and if you were referring to the comment that i made that you were pointing fingers at the playerbase and thinking they're stalkers... well, of course i'm going to quibble about that because there's no solid evidence for or against; you implied i was working with them by the timing of your post, i was offended by the implication, and had to defend myself. (and if you count denial as evidence i'm working with them...neither a true stalker nor a suspected stalker would admit to it, innocent or otherwise.)

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Developer response from delosford

Oh but I thought you never even said anything remotely like that? The stalkers are such bad liars, aren't they, folks?

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Furoa

Nov. 24, 2014

Under rating threshold (show) ...what the heck is there something i'm missing here because either a) my memory's gone and lied to me or b) there's been someone posting in my name. i've never posted that you're 'crazy'/'delusional' in any of the posts; all that was there posted by other players that dancraiground3 might be a stalker was just breaking his name into parseable words. what. please do point us to evidence to the contrary. ...and a third thing, posting the guy's three rerolls does not deny you connecting him to craig and dan and the stalkers, that information is neither mutually exclusive nor damning.

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Developer response from delosford

I already did point you to the relevant evidence. You said it didn't prove anything. Which you will continue to do every time I point you to any evidence, no matter how obviously damning. Which means you're a stalker. Which is why you're banned. Going pretty much full circle here.

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